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Do we need one of these?

Postby will_deness » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:56 am

A code of conduct like I copied off another site. Sadly things can go pear shaped sometimes. But if we had some sort of yard stick to measure how we post our posts it can only be a good thing. I'm not suggesting we plagiarise this one it is just a example.

A. Respect for each other and our statements (even if we disagree).

B. Discuss and debate topics without personal attacks.

C. Express differences of opinion using factual statements and reasoned arguments.

D. "Agree to disagree" when an impasse is found.

E. Be supportive and non-judgmental.

F. Focus on how our statements might affect one another.

G. Be able to see things from the other person's point of view.

H. No hidden agendas.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby GypsyLady » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:27 am

will_deness wrote:A code of conduct like I copied off another site. Sadly things can go pear shaped sometimes. But if we had some sort of yard stick to measure how we post our posts it can only be a good thing. I'm not suggesting we plagiarise this one it is just a example.

A. Respect for each other and our statements (even if we disagree).

B. Discuss and debate topics without personal attacks.

C. Express differences of opinion using factual statements and reasoned arguments.

D. "Agree to disagree" when an impasse is found.

E. Be supportive and non-judgmental.

F. Focus on how our statements might affect one another.

G. Be able to see things from the other person's point of view.

H. No hidden agendas.


I like that one Will, I especially like 'D'.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Derek Bullock » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:19 pm

will_deness wrote:A code of conduct like I copied off another site. Sadly things can go pear shaped sometimes. But if we had some sort of yard stick to measure how we post our posts it can only be a good thing. I'm not suggesting we plagiarise this one it is just a example.

A. Respect for each other and our statements (even if we disagree).

B. Discuss and debate topics without personal attacks.

C. Express differences of opinion using factual statements and reasoned arguments.

D. "Agree to disagree" when an impasse is found.

E. Be supportive and non-judgmental.

F. Focus on how our statements might affect one another.

G. Be able to see things from the other person's point of view.

H. No hidden agendas.


All of those are just everyday good manners. Doesn't matter what you have as a guidelines on a forum if people are not brought up to have good manners then they won't care.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Derek Bullock » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:22 pm

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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby GypsyLady » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:26 pm

Derek wrote:
All of those are just everyday good manners. Doesn't matter what you have as a guidelines on a forum if people are not brought up to have good manners then they won't care.



Simple common courtesy and good manners are almost a thing of the past unfortunately, just travel on any public transport system and you will see this everytime.

I have decided over time to treat people as they treat me and for the times and places in between I am happy to employ the manners I was brought up with.

Not always doable though.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby GypsyLady » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:29 pm

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This is great for the those who wish to do the 'right' thing in the first place but I would like to see how well this doc stood up in any court of law in this country.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby will_deness » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:40 pm

Derek wrote:

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may violate any laws be it of your country,

One could still follow those conditions and still be anti-social.
I think a code of conduct is more for acceptable social conduct.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Derek Bullock » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:46 pm

Here is the one off my website. It is a little more descriptive. However in monitoring the site it is still up to my interpretation of what is right and what is wrong in deciding whether to censor or ban someone from the site.

I have never had to ban anyone although I did ask someone to change their type of posting or leave and they chose to leave.

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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby will_deness » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:27 pm

That does cover a lot Derek and it would be necessary, but what I'm thinking of is a nice short version of posting guidelines stickied to the top of each board,that a moderator can point to when he/she takes action,and maybe a confirm button on posting which could go something like" warning would you send this message to your mother, boss or priest"
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Derek Bullock » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:40 pm

If you look at the menu bar on my site you will see I have a link to the Forum Rules. Could be done here I believe.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Ozzycamperboy » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:55 pm

I'd like to think we don't need one, at least not yet. If anyone does start to post out of line a PM should suffice.

Also. A few things with the new board that some may not have noticed is the ability to "report this post". Its a little button on the bottom right of everyone's post that, when pressed will send a message to admin, there's also a field to put your own comment, might want to explain why you think the post needs reporting.

But keep in mind that generally people don't just decide to start being rude for no reason. So it might be a good idea to look through what you have written previously first ;)

Of course, if and when this site ends up getting a lot more regular posters, the number of complaints is bound to increase, so It would probably then pay to have a set of rules and if anyone continually ignores them there's really no need to waste time with PM's.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby freerocketman1 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:37 pm

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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby will_deness » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:34 pm

Ozzycamperboy wrote:
Also. A few things with the new board that some may not have noticed is the ability to "report this post". Its a little button on the bottom right of everyone's post that, when pressed will send a message to admin,

I think when things get out of control the damage is done well before ''the'' explosive post
Of course, if and when this site ends up getting a lot more regular posters, the number of complaints is bound to increase, so It would probably then pay to have a set of rules

Wouldn't it be better to be proactive rather than reactive? Come the day when it's plain to see we need a change I can bet my bottom dollar that someone will have either been hurt and left the community.
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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby Activity_Dept » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:42 pm

It is a good point will_deness, we might make this thread sticky to start and I will add it to my ever-growing list. But just a little further on Ozzy's point about the 'report a post' feature; the admin i.e. Ozzy and myself, possibly mod's Troy and other volunteers in the future have the ability to send a warning about a post and if left unheeded 'ban the user', something no one wants to do but if you receive a warning please don't shoot the messenger but take a deep breath and look at how easy a light hearted comment can progress into a heated agument (something others don’t want to see particularly when they only read the last one or two posts) so if you’ve been warned its probably for a reason so change the post and move on...

I don't think we have axed anyone yet so lets try to keep it a friendly forum and remember some of the guys and girls here have a sense of humor, I know its what keeps me coming back for more so roll with it, this is a light hearted form of entertainment in some cases a literary treat so lets enjoy it.

Speaking of literary treats what happened to Kramer, anyone heard?

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Re: Do we need one of these?

Postby freerocketman1 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:05 pm

will if you try the little button you should get a responce within 3 mins as i tried it today while playing with ozzys post :lol:

yes i did get a stern warning for pushing that button but it was worth it for a laugh.

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