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state forest or national forest?

Postby stepka » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:34 am

I've got another question. Here in the states, the state forest campgrounds are usually better than the national ones--better facilities, more privacy, etc. The national ones have better tourist attractions, but it's better to look at those during the day, then go camp in the state forest. It it the same way there, or are national forests better for camping? Or is it really variable? How about bathroom facilities? Are those better at state forests, or are they nonexistent? Also, some of our states really have superior campgrounds to others. Do some of your states do a better job than others? The only thing I can tell from looking on the net is that you have more freedom in your state forests, like to fish or build a fire, and you're more likely to get free spots there.
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Postby Ozzycamperboy » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:38 pm

You seem to have answered your own question, mostly.
As a generall guide, National Parks are more restricted, have more touristy things and more facilities. State forests have little to no restrictions, some touristy things but not as 'advertised', and few facilities. Usually only have a pit toilet and a tap with non-drinking water. Although the NP's i've stayed at haven't been much better, they have 'eco-friendly' toilets :shock: that get pumped out by the NP's occasionally.

Much of a muchness really, but NP's tend to get alot of the 'nicer' wilderness cause they 'protect' it more (re; Block it off so no one can get in no more ;) )

And SF's are almost always free :armsup
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Postby gqpatrol » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:52 pm

In queensland the fees are (last time anyway!) $4 per person per nite at both national parks and state forests. It is all basically managed by the same authority, and facilities vary depending on location. Basically you can get a lot of info about queensland parks and forests at http://www.epa.qld.gov.au - and go to the parks and forests tab. This site will give you the most comprehensive rundown on facilities, access, etc, than anywhere I know in one location. Good luck! :-bang
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Postby stepka » Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:33 pm

So, if we want facilities, would we be better off going to a private campground? Or do the state and national parks sometimes have them? Since we're camping for 3 months with 2 teenage girls, I'm thinking sometimes we'll want a decent shower. And do your parks often have picnic tables at the camp spots?

Sorry about all the questions, but it is hard to determine this stuff from a website, because the sites vary widely within a park, and sometimes it's taken for granted that you know that the spots will or will not have tables, or hot showers, or whatever it is you're considering important. Like here, I have never seen a camp spot without a picnic table, unless it's really deep wilderness, so it's often not even mentioned. Well I will quit now and go to bed!
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Postby gqpatrol » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:22 pm

Yep I think sometimes covers it. If a place sounds interesting, ask here about it, or contact the relevant authority in whichever state the place is at. It's a big country with a lot of places to camp. If you can get a rough idea of what you'd like to see, you might be able to work out what's where. There's no set formula for what facilites are anywhere. Generally, a lot of remote places have no water, for instance. But there could be a tank or a bore or a river. So like us, you'll have to research each place you plan to go to. :beer
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Postby Ozzycamperboy » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:53 pm

I've never been to a National Park that has had a shower, but I think they do exist :shock:
If you go to the NP's website (http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au for NSW) and search for a park it tells you what facilities are there... for example:

http://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/par ... 02&Type=Xo

It has an option for 'showers' but its not hi-lighted for this park so I think some must have it.
http://www.parkweb.vic.gov.au/
http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/
http://www.calm.wa.gov.au/national_parks/index.html
http://www.npaq.org.au/
http://www.nt.gov.au/nreta/parks/
Some states have better sites than others, SA's one aint even working atm :lol: http://www.parks.sa.gov.au/parks
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Postby Ozzycamperboy » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:56 pm

In addition, you can get a decent shower that plugs into your cars 12v system, only about $25. Then all you need is a large bucket of warm water, and a private place 8)

Or you can go the whole hock and get a fang dangle system that has a continous hotwater, gas system 8) ... butt $$$catching$$$. Over 500 IIRC, not too sure.
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Postby stepka » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:00 pm

Then all you need is a large bucket of warm water, and a private place
I'm thinking we'll get good at taking the old FPC bath (F for face. . .) :lol: That does help quite a lot though Ozzie. Yes, we'll definitely be researching, and we're compiling a list of "must sees" right now. The Barrier Reef of course, Wilson's Promontory, the Ocean Road among a few. Frazier's Island if we can hitch a ride w/ someone (there are 4 of us, but my husband is a gourmet chef!) There is lots to think about, but we'll get it together.
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